Thanks :) Netscape used to have problems with nested tables, but some of the pages that I have there have table 4 or 5 deep with no problems :) glad to here that NS 4.08 works good, since all I have is 4.7 and it is nice to see how it works with slightly older versions ... the MS rant is definitly for another thread, but I must say that an upgrade to windows 2000 if worth it... I have been using it for a year now and it just doesnt crash.. that is one thing that I have to say I like! Darrin