I posted this in another thread, but I think it should be here, also. One thing I think we all need to consider, is what an MSRP price means here in the USA. Every company sets an MSRP price for their products that are much higher than the actual retail price that you can realistically buy something for. It's psycholigical. If an MSRP is high, then when you see that the selling price is much lower, you feel like you've gotten a good deal. I remember not long ago seeing the MSRP of Poser4 in various places. It was nearly $400. We all know that realistically you would only have to pay $200-$220. In another thread, someone at the show who talked to someone at the CL booth said that they were told that Poser5 would be sold for $349. This is normal in the US, set the MSRP high ($549), actual retail is lower ($349), and everyone is happy about shelling out the bucks. I'm going to be bold here and make a prediction: Poser5 full version: $349-$399 Upgrade from Poser4: $199-$249 Upgrade from P4&ProPack: $99-$149 Time will tell how far off I am. Don't these prices seem more reasonable? Patrick