With respect to the Mac version, perhaps Mac users will have to get ready for a likelyhood that P5 will run on OS X only. Remember, this is the platform now and it's significanlty different from the Mac OS's that came before. The one thing that it's likely to do, once it comes out, is that it may mean CL will release a Linux version (OS X is, I believe, based on Debian Linux) if the economics make sense which will broaden the audience for Poser. (You'd be surprised how many people are running Poser on WINE. :) ) ttfn John