perlscript, javascript,php mysql postgresql all available..with a bit more effort in configuring apache even frontpage extention support and .net / .asp ( though that is a gaping security hole ) until we can get the higher bandwidth connection, we could only offer subdirectories, but full domains after get more expensive connection. to get started would have to limit bandwidth, only for a couple of months, then would be able to go to unlimited bandwidth. ( need to build the setup cost for that connection ) the rates wouldn't alter when we do mange to get the more expensive connection with unlimited bandwidth, as we have been looking and planning on doing this for a while. we figured the cost based on the more expensive connection to be able to not have to raise them when we get better connection. those who downloaded Thunderstorm Creations Sharon Character have found out from the download times what the current connection rate is. ~g~ I think that it was only a minute or so for most to get her. the log said 1000 downloads in 20 hours..though the one person that downloaded her 25 times is a bit strange. ~laughing~ we hosted her on a server here for the first day. it took me only 1/2 a second to download from isp server to my comp..took Stormrage 5 minutes to ftp her up to it, and Stormrage's computer is actually a better computer than mine..she has a p3, i'm only using a p2..hers it at 600Mhz I'm at 233Mhz. the difference comes from the os, I use linux she uses winblows. Cresent, got a spare 4 grand for the account set up? and the 25 grand for a server? that is what we were looking at before a server came looking for me. ~g~ we are setting up a form to build a list of those interested.