(forgot to go in depth with my last re-response)2 questions, this will make me out to be a complete jackass though ..1. it seems to be a small file size for a program (along the lines of the uv mappers file size zip/sit) did i just get the up grade. 2.just how much can i do with it (wireframe mesh or beyond then go into an art prog. for the rest) thanks, me.