Well I have it, If someone can make it work. I'm still working on it, but the Poser manual is vauge at very best on character creation. The thing they DON'T explain is what the blazes should I name every part (they give half an answer). And how to move unmovable hierarchies. Seems that one I did it, and now the foot is at the top of the list, I can't move things around anymore. Another thing for me to do is find a way to learn JPs. I already have it set up as posable, but believe you me, it does some very strange bends and breaks.