Aaarrrrgh I just checked the Viewpoint license on the CD. Yup we're nailed. Can't distribute the model or any part of it. Ya do have the right to do whatever you want to it. So turning it into a poser file with joints is ok. As is using or posting animations and images. So he is still kosher for Tolkien images. Well then how about a tutorial for those of us who DO have it to set it up? Or a secret society like Skull and Bones? Damn, I have a hammer I just know he'd find cuddly. jje