First off, I forgot to mention that the car is still a work in progress. There's still a bit of modeling to do. And second - I wasn't trying to perfectly compare this model to darien's car. I simpy posted this to show that creating smooth and/or complex object via the mesh modeler (I'm still primarily using RDS) isn't as impossible as you keep claiming it is. True Carrara1/RDS can't quite pull off the same effect as an app armed with NURBS modeler or subdivision surfacing. But given some of the work I've seen by many artists on here I'm not so doubtful as to think that it couldn't be done. Or, in my opinion, to think that it wouldn't take any less time shaping the object to you liking even if you did have those features.