I've done quite a few nudes for the galleries, some pinups, no porn, I only wish they had taken 2 minutes to set up. 2 hours is the quickest. And that doesn't count the multiple renders. I bought the program, I bought the models. I'm grateful to CL for supporting and now vastly improving, I hope, a prog I like to use. Beyond that, I don't think I OWE them a particular style. And I'm willing to bet that a company that used to have a huge cut out Vicki in a bikini over their offices wouldn't ask anybody to suddenly knuckle down and do serious Art What I do feel like I OWE CL is showing other people how much fun it is to play with Poser. And that often involves Pinups and nudes. I always mark the nudity check box if it's anywhere close, but I Never put "Nudity" in the title. For me, that cheapens my work. It also treats the rest of the viewers of the galleries as moronic children who don't know how to work the controls. [Only my opinion, the only opinions I know] Emily