I think most people have forgotten that the original Poser default figures were created by Zygote. If you go look at Zygote, the figures they still sell are identical to the old P3 figures, only made for 3D MAX or Lightwave or some other programs (and much more expensive, too). DAZ evolved out of Zygote, which is why I still think they may have a hand in the figures. I'm sure CL has some agreement or partnership with DAZ. Heck, if it weren't for DAZ, Poser probably would have gracefully faded away long ago. DAZ makes a lot of the things that Poser users use (now there's a great sentence!). But seriously, I doubt very much that CL would ignore DAZ in any way. They're too important to their existence. Melanie