Hi Rose, Good to see ya! I figured it had been deleted. 'this kind of stuff can really have a devastating effect' Thanks for all the support everyone. But I just want to say that I've spent the day revamping a lot of my freebies. Basically just slimming some down in size and fixing a few minor problems. And I'll be reposting everything, but with new, improved versions of a lot of the stuff. Some pieces will become posable cr2s. Plus some new pieces that I never got around to finishing. So, in a way, by making me look at the old props I made, this moron has helped, because now I know a few more tricks in max, I can pep the stuff up a bit. I'd still like to disembowel him though.... mac