ok here's some more all in the tuorials section in renderosity 1) volume light cheat 2) lucifer quick tutorial in negative light 3) light and magic (a 2.2 meg download - this one's a mystery to me but it looks interesting on the face of it.) 4) lighting a lamp with poser (and Heins Light) 5) T. Allen's new volume lights tutorial. 6) poser and photographic lighting. "Tha..Tha..THat's all folks". If it ain't in here somewhere I don' know what else to tell you.