Pat! ::shake head:: Shush!!! You'll destroy what little reputation I have left if they discover how frequently and with what enthusiasm I pounce upon a word and render it senseless. Chuck, If you thought that I was a serious business person, I'll have to apologize for misleading you. Whenever I'm interviewing for a job or a project, I drop at least one bad pun into the conversation. If it is thrown back with interest, we'll get along fine. If it is treated like a hairball on white carpet, I don't want to work there. About a decade ago I was employed at Accolade (a game company), and every night before going home I would leave a pun on our designer's monitor. (Poor fellow: can you imagine coming in to work each day and knowing that there is a pun of the most dreadful sort lurking in your sanctum?) When I took a week-long rafting trip, I didn't want them to miss me (sniff), so I brought in my life-size skeleton and seated her at my computer with 5 envelopes under her hand. Every morning Beckett (another artist - Pat knows her) would open an envelope and read that day's pun to our designer. ... And 3 states away I would smile my secret smile. BTW, I am not a nice person. Carolly