:) thanks ed... but I had have nothing to do with the PFO trouble the past few days.... the server went done, and then when it came back up again a few things were screwy.... The look of the site is being worked on at the moment by Willow and so things are in flux slightly :) I have been busy totally updating my site, so havent been working on the PFO much the last couple of weeks.. Darrin www.darrinsden.com