I hope this doesn't come through twice! If so, sorry. It's been 10 minutes, seems to wierd, don't remember a delay before. :( Decided to "check in" here before taking a needed nap (I work nights). I'll try to offer a brief reply to what's been said so far. First, I don't consider the image itself unfinished, just the character. The point is that I'm not creating the character to run around nude, fighting goblins and dragons in the buff. I have posted images to the forum that in the proccess of working on the character I thought were worthy of being posted on their own merits. I didn't create this character as a sexual object. These nude images I consider artistic and beautiful. I initially worried that (some, many?)people here might not be able to look at the nude figure for the artistic value. However, as I've posted, I've been very pleased at the mostly mature way that they've been received. I had begun to feel that the community here had the "artistic appreciation" of tastful nudity, or at least the courteousy not to trash an image because it's a nude. I'm Wiccan, and nudity is not a big deal. Also, because of my personal philosophies, I don't see tasteful nudity to be exploitative, just the opposite, empowering. Although I have zero problem with stuff I've seen in Renderotica, I have chosen NOT to post these there, because I didn't want to reinforce in some peoples minds that these nudes of Gwen are in any way meant to be purient in nature. As to the aspect of fantasy heroines, I understand the point. It's kind of silly to see a fantasy babe nude or only in a skimpy chain thong taking on some beast, where apearently being "sexy" is more important to her than protecting her own hide. Gwen is a Fantasy Role Playing character, yes. But the fictional character doesn't just adventure with out having a life beyond the time they are strapped in to their bulky armor. Being from a Fantasy race and culture where nudity is not taboo, then I see no reason why she couldn't work out with her weapon sans clothing, or even pose that way for some reknowned fictional artist of the realm. I only bring it up because that was the RPG basis for the nudity being "wrong"... The fact that the caption mentions that clothing is coming for the character was meant to assure those who might think otherwise that a.) I'm not doing nudity just to do nudity, it's just the only way I can express this character right now, b.) to make it clear that nudity is not the state that Gwen is meant, by me, the artist, to live her fantasy life. Most of any fighting she will do will be clothed and armored! :) I'm not as upset as I was last night, but I just hate that someone would give a 2 not based on any artistic reason, and not because the image was inappropriate for the forum, but just because they can't deal with artistic nudity... One last tangent before I turn this back over to other comments (please do continue, this discussion is important to how I "feel" about this place). On the subject of historical precedent: Yes, there is much art and statuary from ancient times showing female AND male nudity, including nude warriors engaging man or beast. Culturally, the ancient Celts, mostly of Ireland, DID go into battle nude AND woman were allowed to fight, and were respected as fellow warriors! They gave up armor for dextrous mobility AND the shock value on foriegn forces! :) Sorry for missing any specific replies, I've read and appreciate all views I've read here. :) I'll be back later tonight, after some sleep... Thanks Fiontar McEoghan