Guitta, Walther is right - I wish I could use the functions Varian created for example. Also there are so many wonderful atm files here that we cannot use. They say PC/ Mac in the free area. When we try to read the files on the Mac we get an error message: Sorry, the Macintosh version of Vue d'Esprit cannot read Windows Vue d'Esprit 3.1 or earlier files And then we are left out of all the cool files people can share. It even does this with Vue4 files if they are created on Windows. Scott