Re obj files. I have to agree with Cooler. I've never been asked for the obj. And again, anyone who wants it only has to ask. On that subject, one thing I'd like to hear is if anyone has a problem with normals. I always save the objs for my stuff without normals, a habit I got into a long time ago. Poser doesn't need the information and DAZ, for example, tells brokers to leave them out. Is this a big issue? I ask because because I once saw a post where someone complained about not having normals to use in other apps. I guess it's easy to overcome by resaving the obj, as Allen says. mac