Actually, the car you described sounds like a Ferrari ;-) ...and we're actually queing up a fully revamped web site, so it's going to take a few more days, possibly even a week for complete details. Official word on release is end of summer. Upgrade prices and details will be available in the new web site. An important point to notice is that the P5 press release price indicates SRP (suggested retail price). What you pay on the street is called ASP (average selling price). For reference, the difference between Poser 4's SRP and ASP is over 30%. I'm really, really, really looking forward to being to shake loose all the details. Kupa