ouch - could you do the text in Carrara and then do the boolean in Bryce? or would that just come out as a block ? I just got my copy of Carrara but haven't studied that yet. BTW if you get to eovia.com before the 8th, you might be able to get a deal. I paid $186 for the upgrade. (I know I shoulda got Bryce upgrade but all things in good time.) - TJ