Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Trashed for being nude :(

fiontar opened this issue on Mar 05, 2000 ยท 18 posts


fiontar posted Sun, 05 March 2000 at 7:10 PM

Thanks for all the comments, I still am not at all understanding some of the thoughts on nudity in images, and this one in particular. The reason for having the Katana in these images, instead of being just "straight pin up nudes", is to show that she, and her body, may be beautiful, but she isn't any man's "plaything". The blade, her stance and her expression should make it clear that no one is going to be touching her without permission! I'm not applying this to ANYONE'S particular comments here, but in general, I think that there is a lot of discomfort in our society on the subject power, women and sex. A woman can be perceived as powerful, she can be perceived as being sexy, but if she is powerful AND sexy, the sexy is seen to detract from her power, or cheapen it somehow. Allerleirauh, historically, a Celtic warrior shouldn't be using a Katana, but in the RPG realm, it's just another weapon, not limited to any particular culture. Most RPG fantasy realms are a real melting pot anyway, not only human cultures, but hundreds of non- human ones! :) I totally understand and agree on the point of how an artist will portray a male vs. female warrior. If I was one to settle for the chain mail bikini, I wouldn't be having so much trouble finding clothing that will work! (Note: not that there aren't some good images using such). I'm trying to find creative ways to modify things in Bryce to get something appropriate, and am making some slow progress. With better modelling tools, I'd be all set. I'm just stuck waiting to decide if Carrara is stable enough right now, or if I should go for RDS. I can't afford both :( Anyway, I never meant this image to support the old "women in fantasy art" stereotype. To be honest, from my perspective, Gwen is so powerful in these images that I can't even grasp the point that it may be "sexist", to use a poor but approximate word for the sentiment I'm feeling here. She is young looking, sexy, attractive AND nude, but still exudes her power and sense of self. I guess that would be the whole point of the image. And once again, I haven't set her out in the elements sans clothing. The lack of any scene was an artistic choice, but also takes the character out of any expectations in interaction with the world she lives in. Her form, and her comfort with her body and her handling of the blade is the only element being presented her. You don't even have to wonder what she's standing on, and if it's cold! :) I've never seen artistic nudity as gratuitous. The other elements will decide whether there is a "sexist" message, and from my point of view, not only is there no "weakness or submisiveness" being portrayed here, but the opposite! The strong, capable yet feminine warrior is my favorite archetype, and I don't see that Gwen is anything less than that, even sans clothing. Also, when it does come to fantasy art, I may agree with the peeve, but I never judge the image just on attire, or lack there of. Some of my favorite fantasy art also manages to make clear the character's strength and power, regardless of the clothing. Right now, one of my favorite artists is Luis Royo. I find that no matter what the other circumstances, his women have power. That's what I appreciate and love. Fiontar McEoghan