sigh... Nobody wiped him off the face of the Internet. I took action because he was, if you boil it down, misusing the servers that I control, in part to attack a website that he had been banned from. If he had not tried posting freebies in his attempts to 'get back' at R'osity, then I wouldn't have said so much as 'boo' about it. Incidentally, I'm back because I wanted to mention something: There was an attempted DDoS attack here last night at approximately 9pm MDT. It was very poorly conducted, appeared to have been run by IRC-based script, and because it was rather unable to soak the College's main OC-48 line, it was only noticed by the IT department this morning during logchecks... and has since been squelched. I do not know myself who launched it or why, and I will make no accusation. I merely state its occurrance because the coincidence is a rather close one. Yes it sucks that Bebop's freebies aren't out there any longer. Yes he was damned good at texturing and modelling. But no, I refuse to put my own servers in jeopardy with the school administration if R'osity decided to complain, which would be within their rights to do. I refuse to be a co-conspirator in this mess. This decision I made on my own, and it will stand until Bebop can learn to behave himself, three months hence at least. Why? because there are too many other artists who use these servers, and I have to put their needs over the interests and the petty desires for revenge of a single disgruntled ex-R'osity member. Summfox is right - there are too many other communities ( 3D Commune, PoserPros, Animotions, even Renderotica and Thralldom, just to name a few.) I'm not exactly what you would call a shill for R'osity. I no longer post in the fora here, save for this one incident in which my servers were involved. I shan't be posting here once this dies down. However, they are right in enforcing their policies, and if anyone is to blame here, it is Bebop himself. It was his behaviour that drew my attention to this mess, and it was his behavior that got him banned. I don't care how he spins it on his site, that's just the way it happened. Incidentally, c1rcle, I understand what you're trying to say, but the 3dc situation is completely different. (and I know you're not accusing me of anything, so fear not :) ) 3D Commune's free stuff is a database of pointers... this wee server cluster of mine is where a lot of it points to. No one is stopping Bebop from finding a new community. If he shows up at PoserPros, I will welcome him (though the ban here still stands until he cleans the mess up) Now folks, this really is the last I'm going to say in the matter. I urge you to let it die, as I intend to. /P