W of G, At this point it seems that no matter what anyone says, you're going to continue griping. Why the hell should Kupa break a leg racing to publish the upgrade price? He'll tell us when he's ready, and that'll be long before it's up for sale, I'm sure. As if it made any difference anyway! We all have a rough idea of what's it's going to be and he won't hold it close to his chest for more than a couple of weeks at most. mac