wow...everybody seems so angry, lately. i have seen alot of ugliness in the poser-related forums, lately. mostly, it has been moved, deleted, and/or locked....d. all of the above. that's okay, though. we all still have our posting rights. wow....in the last few days, i have read posts by 3 or four members who said they were leaving this community. i think they may have been angry about something. they took away their own posting rights. that seems the best way to go, when angry at renderosity/and/or some of its members. 'cause you don't have to ban yourself for life. nope, you can simply take your toys and go home. you can come back, with your toys....maybe,a few extra toys for appeasel of the ptb...and all will be splendid. back to the bebop issue. there were 3 primary players in the overall nastiness that broke out early this year. let's call them a...the girl player. xy....the first male player, and, xyy....second male player. well, a felt sure that xy had ripped off her lighting sets, and sold them as a package. she supposedly told xyy. xyy puts his head with that of lady a. they decide for xyy to introduce yet ANOTHER lightset to the market. they decided to use lady a's lightset...but to alter the numbers by "1". internet prank, okay? even those of us coming up with a debt in our "time you have, to do what you like"...have fun, here, and at other places. anyway, a plot was concocted. the fair knight xy came to royal battle with lady a. knight number 3, sir xyy, it all went so very badly, that it burst into flames in the poser forum. however, all threads of war were shuffled off to the c&d forum. there, they were summarily executed, as was, finally the entire forum. i think what counts is this...there were 3 people involved. all 3 folks were very well reknowned, here. one took home their toys, and ran....but, returned a day or so later. another, used the whole flame war, as good publicity. i must admit....he went far on it. he's quite successful, now; so i hear. the third person in that little go round lost his cool. he probably isn't a good poker player, either. but, he did have some wonderful talents that made him valuable to this community. i hate to be a snob, but, sir xyy had some wonderful, unique talents. he was on a par, in his field, with lady a, and lord xy. i want to go to my religion's version of "heaven"...that is, of course, unless your's is better. i've done some things, early on in my wild years, that i still feel bad about. wow....this whole thread makes me worry if i am forever to be banished from heaven, mecca, west virginia, and, that there rockin' out little baptist church on south dixie hwy. i can't wait for this weekend to inform all those folks, that by renderosity standards...they can not be saved. no redemption. this whole thread is a very sad comment on human nature.