Hi again Tammy: Listen...let me think on this a bit...I will e-mail you tomorrow morning...I want to play around with these words a bit... Just to re-itterate...I can remember when I first started out on these forums...really green...scared...shy...not all that good with the material but hey...trying...I think if someone had thrown one or two "needs overhaul" under my pics I would maybe have just thrown in the towel...LOL... Hey...I mean...someone buys poser...buys some stuff in the marketplace..just dying to use this neat stuff, creates something...craves to post it...they may not be all the great yet because they are learning...they get these negative responses; they may well wind up just feeling they may as well not bother or go elsewhere. We all know criticism happens in the real world...it is an essential part of growing...but we also know that criticism can be "constructive" or "destructive"...we are not rating "cars"...we are rating ART...with art it is difficult to assess values on terminology...we have to be very careful for even the BEST of the BEST may do very obscure artwork to portray messages...or just to portray a particular or peculiar style or experimentation quality...would that then be a "needs overhaul"?? Artists are a sensitive lot at the best of times...I think "respect" is the key...the wording...no matter what...should be something that may indeed "rate" somewhat, but still ratain that essential "value" to go on... Talk soon, Peter