Robertlov, Interesting point here. I actually don't know how many lines of code are in Poser. Aside from the application, there are all the other resources needed as well. Think of the runtime directory, although there is certainly a lot of stuff in there that some us hardly ever use, but even so, it's enormous. As a body of work, the sheer volume that represents what is Poser is pretty much without comparison in any other product available. Think of how many other apps you would ever run across that have a 140 meg installer... not that I'm proud of that number; it is what it is. And all this is being done by a handful of technologists, programmers, artists, and support people. And btw, thanks!