Heya TigerD, my apologies first for any headaches my bearded Mike may have caused you. Truth is, I was not aware that a prob existed until I heard from Rawn. Now I have to wonder, who else has had problems. (Er, it seems safe to assume that this is not just a prob with my bearded Mike, since Mitch made his own, but that there is a prob with using the grouping tool and ProPak in general.)