**Sometimes you get an attitude with your service.. It's kind of like going to a "mom and pop" diner where the crusty waitress likes to taunt you as she delivers your food. *** Crisjon1950 - excuse me, Ronknights... crusty waitress? I do hope Rena doesn't see you describing her as a crusty waitress. She's been around a lot longer than you Ron, and she's earned the right to be a little testy sometimes when some newbie comes along lecturing her on how they think she should run her life and hobby. One thing that a lot of people forget is that PWFW went subscription because Allen gave them a choice - subscription to pay for the bandwidth, or bye bye. So it's not a business, in that you're right. It IS like going to a mom and pop diner, one where you get highly personalised treatment, a friendly smile and damn good food. On that note, didn't you have enough the last time you started sniping at them? Yes Poserworld considers it's customers friends. If you would rather be treated as a nameless number in a queue waiting at the checkout of a supermarket there are plenty of other sites who can cater to it. But how many "friends" would allow you to demean their work and their manner of speech and expect them to tolerate one's own bad attitude? The thing is though, that some people get very upset when someone who is relatively new lectures them on what they have been doing for years already. Poserworld is the best value you can get. I defy anyone here to find another site - pay or free - that consistently gives away so much for so little and supports it, and makes things to request, and chats with the members and keeps it all below the cost of a night's bed and breakfast.