Ah, the mouth--needs a bit more length between nose and upper lip. I think Trav has this morph, but if not, there is def. one on Nene4.1 since I have used it before. I sure understand about the morphs. I dled ALL Trav's morphs as zips and then in a fit of industriousness last night, I unzipped all and categorized them by mouth, eyes, facial, etc. Still, just finding a nose morph or a lip/mouth morph is extremely time consuming. DEF. not Trav's problem--he's just made sooooooooo many G. Diane B