I'm just as excited about Poser5 as everyone else here, but if they release it in a month & it's not quite finished people are going to be bitching every day till a patch comes to fix it. I'm sure everyone at CL wants to release Poser5 right this second but they know better than the rest of us they have to get it right for them as much as for us. After years of playing games & seeing release dates move every 5 seconds lets be thankful we're not waiting for the game duke nukem forever, it's now over 4 years late. All we have to wait is a few weeks to a couple of months, be patient. Kupa will show us more when he can, he has said that himself more than once. Rob