Crisjohn, I respect the "rules" the creator sets, thats why I only download for commercial use stuff. "1.) Anyone who wants to make money should expect to buy their own tools or make them." Anyone who gives something away for free, ideally, it should be free for commercial use in IMAGES/ANIMATIONS, because that's THEIR art. I respect the rights of the creators who don't want their stuff in commercial renders. "Anyone who continually harasses people who don't want to support someone else's income are really insulting those who give of themselves and their talent to provide the free stuff." I'm not harassing anyone, I have the programs and ability to create almost anything (I couldn't create a Mike or Vicky, well, I could create humans, but they wouldn't be as good as Mike and Vicky). "All this needless greed" Needless greed? Who's really being greedy? I just throw away the non-commercial use stuff, or don't download it. Why? Because I can't keep track of everything I download, and I DO make money off of my artwork, and create commercial art. "has already helped drive away free stuff providers" Huh? I don't think so. If anything, it just lets the good ones rise to the top. "Keep it up. Then let's see how many Free Stuff providers you drive away with this thread, and the next and the next." Well, it won't bother me if they are non-commercial use folks, because I won't install their stuff anyway. I still respect their wishes, but when I give away free stuff, it's free for both commercial and personal use. That's really "free". "Talk about shooting yourself in the foot." Not for me.