Hi Mosca, I wouldn't consider my buds at DAZ as mega-prudes, they just have a different belief set. It doesn't take long for the community to ahhh, emmmm, "fill the gaps". We're in a different position (all this sounds like some kinda pun, doesn't it) and can excercise some different choices. There will be a "gentials off" option for both adult figures. Collision detection would prevent interpenetrations of two objects or body part actors, if that mode is on, if toggled off interpenetration will occur. Collision detection doesn't force mesh deformation though. I think that's what you hinting at...