Uggg, Allerleirauh, enough with the peeves, I like this look and see nothing wrong with it!!! :) Some points were left out here that were made in "step one" here earlier, so I can appreciate the comments, my fault. I'm interested in comments on the elements so far, it's far from complete... ::sigh:: Some of you are sparking me to want to debate the issue of "sexy" and fantasy women, but I'll save that for when I have the energy. I aleady lost a day to this general issue. No offense to anyone. However, I'm now developing a pet peeve of my own! ;P First, yes, other elements are in the works, it will depend on what results I get with different things I try. It's possible that none, some or most of the leather (exterior, not interior) bottoms will be obscured/ covered by some other elements. Second, this is an AD&D 3rd Edition character in the works. Some elements of multiclass restrictions on weapon/ armor use have been relaxed, but she IS a Warrior/ Mage. Her choices are no armor at all, or light armor that won't inhibit spell casting. This character has a very high dexterity. For those not versed in RPGs, her main defense is her quickness, and ability to dodge, avert, etc... blows before they reach any armor. She can't wear anything heavy, ruling out the "slow, bulky, hit me and see if you make a dent" kind of armour. The finger cut outs are required, as most spells require precise jestures to work. The extra protection she is now provided is far better than nothing. The exotic nature of the magical dragon scale armor is the only thing that let's her wear anything more than leather or cloth, for the most part. :) Even if spell use weren't an issue, I promise that 90% of those who ever fought with swords in our historical old times didn't wear gaunlets. One thing many seem to forget with Gwen, in general, is that her expertise with the blade, and her magic, negate most of these points entirely. Do NOT underestimate her abilities! She definitely doesn't like that! :) Her choice in armour is based on functionality AND style. Don't we usually combine those two in the real world when making clothing choices? For her, practical has to mean the best protection with the least restriction of movement. Aside from the limitations of the artist right now as far as options, all her armour choices are made with practicallity in mind, implemented stylishly, with the added consideration of the effect in the imigery from the artist's perspective. Skimpy sans reason is dumb, bulking up out of a false sense of modisty is just as dumb, and possibly more dangerous... The bottoms are not meant to be her only "protection" in that range. It is the base for what I find I can add, and was at least better than having nothing there because I haven't gotten that far yet! The bottom isn't there UNTIL something else is added, but in addition to what, if anything, is added. ::sigh:: Please note the cut of the top. I added what collar and height I could without restricting motion. There is enough of a dip under the neck to allow her to "breath", but no gratuitous cleavage. The length is based on mobility, and somewhat on Aesthetics. It's as low as looked good with the limited methods at my disposal. I do appreciate all the comments, but please don't begrudge me the ability to respond. There are a lot of issues being raised around this character that seem to be based on generalizations that don't really apply to her, or me. I'm not going to go skimpy to titilate, nor am I going to limit my expression based on anyone's sensabilities. None of the above is any kind of attack on anyone, I just feel frustrated that myself, and this work, seem to be being greatly misundertood based on generalities that, once again, may not apply... Done any fighting? When I was young, some friends and cousins used to do a weekend "real world" D&D in the woodland and fields behind our house. Dyed sheets for cloaks, and 1 1/2" thick, 5' long dowells as swords. For the most part, the coffee can plastic lids as hilt guards prevented any serious harm over a weekend. :) LOL. Haven't thought about that in a while. We were clumsy, Gwen is expert. There IS a reason for hilt guards, and the katana has one. :) I'm definitely not going to do seperate versions of images for different crowds! That's to PC for me! :) I won't limit my expression to hide sexuallity, nor use it gratuitously. That's all I can say. She will be wearing as much or as little as the image requires... Eventually, once I have the tools and skills required, I plan on doing an image showing all the bulk an adventurer carries along between battles. Also one showing the stuff that is dropped, thrown aside or removed to egage in combat:) And, even when I can create every bit of equipment, armour and clothing I could want, I will still do figure studies that I find artistic... Allerleirauh, I've been contemplating the scales, I'm thinking point down for the breast plate and point up for the leggings. Both are comfortably lined, so interior isn't a factor. For the leggings, you are more likely to be sliding down a slope than up it ;) So, I'm thinking point up is fine. Fiontar