Cylindrical mapping always seems to do odd stuff for me; I haven't played with it enough to get good results. I should bite the bullet and get UVMapper Pro. I'm working on a base for the Mil Baby (well, base bits. I'm just going to do the parts I need and add in future projects) so I can make a christening gown for it. Wow, that's a lot of slow, tedious work. I'm grateful to have someone else do it for me. ^_~ The tutorial string you did in the Amapi forum a while back was great, Thip.