I give credit when I can remember who made the things I use, but demanding credit will only make me throw away stuff or not even download in the first place, I'm not doing anything commercial & probably won't for a long time but even now I'm choosy about what I download. It makes me laugh when I see in a readme "if you use it let me know", think about 20000 people downloading & emailing the poor sucker cause they asked for it. I'm tempted to email people everytime I do a render with their stuff & see how long it takes for them to get pissed at me. Thats everytime I hit the render button not post a pic :) Rob