Respect for Poser is a very big issue. I showed my poser work to an art grad student here at Marshall University and she was both disdainful and dismissive of it to say the least. I can see where someone would look down at Poser to some extent because poser artist are using the same figure geometries and poser art can have a look to it that you know what programs were used to create it. However, to say that poser users are simply "fast food" artists with a lack of real artistic conviction is asinine. Like many other poser users here, my artistic ventures began in pencil-drawings without formal artistic training. In my four years at Marshall I was asked several times why I had not opted to become an art major instead of chemistry. (Obviously someone thought that I had some talent and appreciated my work.) My answer was simply that art was a hobby which I did not want to be graded for. (I was recently accepted to the Forensic Science graduate program at Marshall University). The confines of poser 4, 5, or whatever are no where as limited as what some people pretend. I have reported several times in this forum where poser was used for crime scene analysis on Court TV. I have no doubt that it has used in movies as c1rcle suggests. Like many others, I have gravitated towards Poser because it is friendly, easy to use, and there is an excellent community of artists involved with it. There are certainly other excellent graphic arts programs out there, but like with drawing, every artist needs to start somewhere... and poser, i think at least, is the best place to start in this medium. Thanks, PapaBlueMarlin