I aspire to do some animations like wolf359 and others with Poser, I am learning LW7 and Lifeforms. It is clear to me that I have to hope of completing any type of reasonable animation in my lifetime it would only be because of Poser. Poser 5 is going to make this incredible system to a level I never imagined would be available at an incrediblely fair price. All the nay sayers are going to turn around in about 5-6 months and find themselve forced to lower their high prices once again. I just wonder if the 3D software development has entered a new phase, similar to what we have seen in the last 10 years when the explosion of hardware improvements soon lead to a dramatic fall in prices...boy do I love competition with and expanding user base...GO FOR IT CURIOUS LABS...my wallet is open and ready.