Ron, Any time you want hairy balls on Marvin or Marlin, all you have to do is use the coconut prop from free stuff. (Cooler did it and it is over at 3dcommune.) Place one on each side. Scale it as large as you need, but do scale both sides the same size lest they look strange. TffnJohn, I've bookmarked that duct tape costume site because of all the great ideas. The plaid done with red and green woven through the silver could have been nicer, but they were probably dealing with the stuff sticking to them as well as itself. Don't worry, the duct tape will be handsomely commemorated! Carolly