Hi all, Well, this is the third evolution of Gwen's armour. The main armour is now done. I will be adding mostly fine details from here out. The dragon scale skirt is the final major element. Most likely, the midriff is staying just as it is. If my imagination moves me to add some other element there, it might change slightly, but I think it's going to stay much as is there. Even as is, with out even applying the effects of protective magics and items, her current armour, and dexterity, in AD&D, gives her the protective equivalent of a Knight in Plate Mail. Add in the magical elements, and most low level characters and beasties are unlikely to even get in a scratch on her, so stop worrying about her safety! :) I fixed the direction of the dragon scale on the breast plate. I will probably add the leather texture to the breast plate neck collar, and a thin border at the neck opening. I'll be adding metal details to the armour, and bracers next. Comments? (Allerleirauh, make sure you see my new response in step two below). :) Fiontar McEoghan

She looks pretty cool and has a really nice character.

Now that looks pretty cool. Paul

Woops, Just noticed that I forgot to add the corrected direction of the dragon scales on the breast plate to the image! Doh! :) Next evolution I'll fix that. The skirt has the right scale direction... Fiontar

Coming along nicely! To me, it seems the armor is a tad dark, but if you add the metal highlights and such, that shouldn't be a problem. Haha, and don't feel you need to keep justifing her revealing outfit with AD&D stats! I've spent way too much time making what I should and what I needed to, rather than what I WANTED to. Make her look the way you want her to look and let the nitpickers run around in their plate mail. ;) SnowS Hoping his pictures are worth 1001 words

SnowS, Thanks for the comments. I want the colors dark, but I notice now, looking at it with the room around me brightly lit with the afternoon sun, under these conditions it looks to dark. It just highlights how imperfect it can be to get something that looks good on one monitor, to look as good on someone elses. :) The skirt is a little lighter than the rest, I think I'll up the brightness a tad on the others. Thanks, Fiontar

She looks great! And SnowS has a point. Make her how you want her, rather than worrying about what others think. Remember, you're the artist. If someone can't appreciate your work, don't give them any mind. Keep it up. I can't wait to see how she'll look when she's done! Rosh

Better and better... :)

...I agree. Make her how you want her, but be careful when you invite others opinions. You just might GET them. smile

I know this question is kinda late since she's been wearing an armor for the last two days, but what morph did you use on her breast, I've tried all my morphs(thats alot) and I can't seem to get nice breast like this. Could you give me a clue or something

Is Gwen's breast plate damaged just below her right breast? It's a little to dark to see it clearly, but IMHO this would give the armour a reallistic used touch.

Again, I am very impressed.How did you lower the front of her skirt? A magnet? Does she still pose well with it?

IHawk, Unfortunately, until I get a program that will allow more complex model creation than Bryce, I've had to do things the "hard way". Although you probably could dip the skirt with a magnet, I just continued with methods I've been employing towards this project. The arm armour and leggings are alterations to the poser figure using morphs by traveler. I wanted to use the materials within Bryce, rather than a texture map, so the arms and legs are rendered once with just the character texture map, then with the leather or dragon scale textures. Because the breaks at the flare are not at the top of the arm object, I have to take the rendered images, and clone brush the textured sleeves and leggings over the appropriate portion of the arms and legs. The breast armor is the figure's chest, abdomen, collar and neck duplicated in Bryce, grouped, and boolean operations with sphere and boxes made to crop off the bottom of the breast plate, make appropriate cuts at the shoulders, and make the opening to the collar at the neck. The skirt is first the bikini bottoms from Poser, with the leather texture. Then a new render was done with the Poser skirt with the Dragon skin. When cloning the skirt from that image to the "master" image, I "painted" it on at that cut, making the brown on top the "belt" for the skirt. It requires a lot of compositing work in Paint Shop Pro, but everything in the scene is originally rendered in bryce, in "layers", and then composited in post production. I hope in the future to duplicate the final product, as much as possible, as posable clothing. For now, this is my way around the limitations of the software I have access to, and my abilities. The hardest work is with this first pose. When I eventually do another, it will still require much work, to duplicate the steps on a new posed figure object in Bryce. That's why eventually doing them as full posible clothing will save much time in the future. Just not near there yet. :) One advantage of this method is that as I render new modifications, I just do a low quality render of the whole scene, then use Bryce's plop render mode to do a high detail render of the areas changed since the last render, then clone the changes onto the "master" image in PSP. A lot of work! I'm used to working with multiple layers in PSP, so this isn't much different. Rendering in Bryce means that the elements composited into the image have the proper shading for the full image. This also allows me to do things a step at a time, which should allow greater detail than trying to create everything in Poser. The reason I started with nudes was because I'm just not happy with the limitations of the poser clothing. Being able to create custom clothing for a character, or even morph targets that will allow a better fit to the custom character are my ultimate goal, but it will take time... Fiontar

Actually, the brown leather at the top of the skirt is a border, not a belt. I just have been thinking of it as a belt, because some new detail I'm adding looks almost like a belt buckle. :) Oh well, same difference... Fiontar