As you must do Ron, since you're still here responding to the thread. I see a huge difference in using an item in a render compared to using it in a product where it can be used over and over. A render is using an item as it was intended by the creator, a product for sale using freebie items is not using it as it was intended by the creator. On the other hand, the commercial issue doesn't affect me as I will never be good enough to sell anything, even renders. But I simply can't keep track of every freebie and every readme I download no matter how I try. I'm not that organized nor is my memory that good 2 years later. shrug Just my opinion, I don't really care if anyone agrees or not.