Spike: yes it's in bryce... so one tex map won't work! arg!!! Rosh: I think you read my mind or something, cause I put a 'rack' of small fighters under the curved section of the main hull. Of course, they kinda got buried when I added the back section... And now that I think of it there are way to many turrets there- of course it'll be kinda hard to work quickly seeing as it takes about 20 minutes to load/save already... ... still perplexed for textures though... i have a bunch of REALLY cool metals, but none of them seems to fit... oh well Gecko