thanks for the infos! I'll try these out soon. I didn't much luck with transparent gifs with imageready, i hope it'll be as easy as it sounds. thanks I've playing with slices and CSS, and had very little problems. With Netscape4, when you create a rectangle, and you set the slice option as 'No image', and you write some text, the rectangle will collapse around the size of the text, and will not take up the size of your original rectangle.Its color will not show as a result. This is a bug in Netcsape though (it does not support the height property of divs for example). You just have to make sure that the divs, that contain text, are filled with 'something' (a table for example). The table has to be the size of your rectangle.