Vue is a landscape generator (what can much more then only landscapes) and is sold as it. Vue is NOT a modeler and I hope it will not become a modeler. Vue's price is so low that you have in fact to get one of the big and expensive programs if you want every thing. Vue is easy and fast to learn, Max owners needs years. So do Maya owners. Vue is a very young program, which has so great features! I agree for the plants, but in reallity there ere so many plants, trees and flowers available (for free or to purchase)on the Internet, that you always can find what you need. And you can create your own inside Vue. Of course, they are not of this fabolous SolidGrowth quality, but can help. Vue4 has beaten Bryce anyhow and more again with Mover 4. For November 2002 or so, we will establish our wish list to send to e-onsoftware. But we have to be correct and reasonable when we do so and...we will:-). People who needs more then what Vue is able to offer, have to buy another program. A real artist is able to do more with Vue then a non-artist (or a "wish I was an artist") will ever be able to do with Max, Lightwave or Maya. With all programs, whatever, you need to be inventive, have imagination and love to create. Just my opinion. :-)Guitta