bikermouse, I grew up in San Francisco too, except for the first 12 years in and around New Orleans. Went to Everett and the original Polytechnic. Hows by you? Live in Sacramento now, got a big house and stuff, but much warmer weather most of the time. Of course, none of that matters much when addicted to Poser and its attachments. And tango, which consumes all other -- ha ha!! -- free time!