"always adding more and more bad of these bad Poser crap stuff we have often here, for not much realism." This is a problem with the user and not poser. people who make bad results with poser wll make bad results with this software too. "after the deception with Curious Labs, I am quite happy even if I have to spend some more efor a professional serious qualty software..." what deception are you referring too? "Poser 3, because I deny totally the quality and what theuy did out of Poser 3 with Poser 4" I actually found poser 4 to be a large improvement, and poser 5 seems to improve on that still further. Why do you consider poser 4 to be such a mistake? did you learn how to use it? have you tried it? was it a full legal copy? "at least until Sigular Inversions make the next versions of FaceGen, with bodies, expressions and poses. (Why not quality-monsters, if you like them so much ????!!!..." Ever hear of creature creator? Not as advanced as face gen modeller but more of the same. It still isnt as functional as poser. "But I don't want to offend nobody telling you my opened-heart feelings, and please consider that my advice is only one of them. Not more important not less than oner ones. " Im not offended at all. nothing wrong with stating your opinion, and your not hurting anyone. I always like a good discussion or debate. Im just sharing my own opnions and am interested in why yours are what the are. However, i really feel this probabl should have been brought up on the off topic board.