We are gathered here today on this forum to find not what divides us but rather to seek that which unites us. In good time we will all all know the truth of Poser 5 but in the meantime the common goals must not be forgotten - to create a form of self expression, to enjoy the company of others that share our interests and to help each other. To divide ourselves on petty issues only takes us into a darkness that serves no one that uses poser. We will survive this whole and on one forum provided we can remember that it is the artist and not just the tool which creates the art. Who can duplicate the beauty that they see in their mind if that mind is clouded? - TJ