I don't agree that Apple is at fault for the delay, which is to say I don't buy the "apple not returning calls" excuse. As any programmer worth their salt will tell you, contacting the OS or compiler manufacturer is a last resort effort. You are first expected to exhaust all other developer resources, such as newsgroups, apple developer network technotes, mactech articles, peers, etc... I would not expect kupa's team to get quick fixes from Apple, it just doesn't work like that. Case in point: Poser is the last piece of software I'm using that has not been upgraded to run on OS X. Even my favorite lowly shareware apps are carbonized, and you can bet those programmers get NO attention from Apple. As an Apple/Mac programmer of 15 years, I've had to call Apple and Metrowerks 2 or 3 times each IIRC for a tech support issue, and only when I was sure there was a bug in the OS and compiler respectively. You're never going to get as timely a response as from a fellow programmer (or group thereof). -Adam