I hate to admit it but I got duped TWICE... got both Poser 3 and Bryce 3 by shamms. (ordered at the same time) When I thumbed through Poser 3 .. I was like "WTF, this guy isn't teaching anything, just showing how much you can distort a Poser figure .. something I can do on my own ... for free" and the Bryce 3 book wasn't any better. To equate his ability in writing/graphics creation .... think Pauly Shore doing Shakespeare and trying to be serious ... its just completely out there. bob