I have downloaded the Belly dancer, she is a wonderful work, this is true, but is also a poser 3 model. Her pants are actually her legs, rather deformed to make them a bit lumpy and mapped. I have been working on models of Eastern African women, particularly Arabs and Egyptians, and would like clothing to go with them. They are poser 4 format. Alot of the Egyptian and Arabic stuff out there is great, yet looks awkward from the wrong angle (such as the Egyptian Collar on the Poser Props page) and I have rebuilt a new one in 3d Studio Max that one can also do a profile render with without this awkwardness, or in the case of the Egyptian Royals and Belly Dancer models, their "pants" and "skirts" are their legs modified, so once again does me no good for the custom made ethnic models I'm attempting to create of NorthEastern Africans. As far as I can, I am using what I can find available, also hating to reinvent the wheel as well :) Liz