"If I were to make a similarly foolish statement about, say, "Arabs being racist as a whole", and said: "after all, how many white members and leaders are there in the Islam?" It would be a stupid justification for my own hypothetical bigotry. What you're saying is just as bad." See: Circular Reasoning. When did I say anything about Utahns (Utahns?) being "racist as a whole?" A little hypersensitive, Pen? "Incidentally, you just asked the same question I asked you, but you've rather failed to anwer: "How would you know?"" See above. I made no statement regarding your personal ethnicity, OR your personal attitudes about persons of differing ethnicities. I'm not accusing anyone of being a racist or a Kluxer or having multiple barefoot wives--that's all YOU, reading between what you think the lines are. Are you suggesting that Utah, with its miniscule non-white population, is the global center of ethnic sensitivity? If it was, DAZ wouldn't have sent a mass email to all of its customers that contained racially charged and probably (judging from the reactions of some of the members here) insensitive language. I have to say, it interests me when people who haven't been accused of anything start defending themselves with such vigor. What's up with that?