Hi Mosca (and everyone) This is a great thread and important debate. I hope DAZ employees read it and think about things. Lordbyron's comments are especially enlightening and considerable. I respectfully disagree that it should be moved or locked; this is a real world Poser/graphics/social issue, even if it inflames some passions. It's so true that there are too few non-Euro textures and morphs out there. I'm sure "Brown Sugar" is a worthy product, it's just that the name and copy are problematic for the reasons already discussed. I remember seeing another DAZ texture described as "African-American," which is considered respectful, but then, not all black people are American. :) Mosca, to clarify, I said what I said about your charicature of Utah because I thought it was, as others have pointed out so well, slightly hypocritical. I'm not attacking you at all, not calling names, only hoping you to see that these things go in many directions. As a former Mormon who has spent some time in Utah I'm aware of the truths, misconceptions, and outright lies that are common about that church and its members. I'm very critical of it, myself, although I recognize most members to be very fine people. (I'm also painfully aware of its racist history, which accounts for the low black membership mentioned.) The thing is, potentially offensive caricature language was specifically your complaint, you see? "Geo-socially" coined, if expediently, by me in the heat of the moment to help express: You're did the same thing to Utah people (being insensitive, inappropriate in language) that you accused DAZ of, except as pertaining to locale and population rather than ethnicity. In spite of whatever appearances, I'm horribly un-PC, and am sometimes disgusted by its excesses. My points aren't "PC," they're in regard to fairness, respect, and trying to do the right thing by everyone. PC does go too far, but it goes too far as an E-Z label, too. Yes, I do think it's OK to make fun of places and people sometimes. It's just that when you're trying to make a certain point... (OK, enough, everyone gets the pic...) By the way, where are the great Latino textures? ;-)